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Africa-Press<\/a> – South-Africa<\/a>. <\/strong><\/span>Johannesburg – There were “spooks” from a foreign country stationed in Soweto to monitor and influence the ANC\u2019s Nasrec conference while millions of rands were stolen from the State Security Agency (SSA) to fund a political campaign by some factions of the ANC.<\/p>\n

These were allegations made by Inspector-General of Intelligence (IGI) Setlhomamaru Dintwe who gave evidence at the state capture commission of inquiry in Joburg on Wednesday.<\/p>\n

Dintwe\u2019s evidence was related to his oversight during the peak state capture years of former president Jacob Zuma era.<\/p>\n

Dintwe implicated a former special adviser to Minister of Transport Fikile Mbalula, saying the man attempted to irregularly procure \u201csignal grabbers\u201d ahead of the ANC\u2019s 2017 Nasrec conference.<\/p>\n

These signal grabbers would be used by spies stationed in Soweto to intercept all electronic communications that would take place at the conference.<\/p>\n

Dintwe said Mbalula\u2019s advisor, Bo Mbindwane referred to these \u201cspooks\u201d, or spies as \u201cbackpackers\u201d, and told him that the grabbers would cost about R210 million.<\/p>\n

He said he was approached by Mbindwane so that he could influence a certain crime intelligence divisional head to sign off on the request to purchase the spying devices.<\/p>\n

Dintwe said when he found out that the grabber was to be bought from a \u201cshady\u201d company, he told Mbindwane he would no longer be involved in the issue.<\/p>\n

The procurement was then halted by the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (Ipid), he said.<\/p>\n

Dintwe said it was found that the company inflated its prices and there was information that the rest of the money would be used to \u201cbuy votes at Nasrec\u201d.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt sounded probable and that is why we intervened, because the grabber average price is R7m, but in this case they wanted R45m to buy one grabber,\u201d said Dintwe.<\/p>\n

In his testimony, Dintwe told the commission that \u201clots and lots\u201d of money left the SSA in suitcases and used to fund more than one faction of the ANC.<\/p>\n

One of the transactions, Dintwe said, was equivalent to \u20ac200 000.<\/p>\n

Dintwe told the commission that their findings show that the monies could have been used to fuel political tensions that could affect national security in an adverse manner.<\/p>\n

He said, in other jurisdictions, there were fears that these monies could be used to fund terrorism.<\/p>\n

Dintwe said there was mass flouting of financial controls at the SSA.<\/p>\n

He said that money would leave the SSA but there was no proper accountability on whether the money reached the people it was allocated to.<\/p>\n

\u201cSo I take the money and I say that I am taking this money to Joseph.<\/p>\n

\u201cJoseph could be a source or he could have done certain work for us but all we have is a signature stating that \u2019I the undersigned confirm that I have received this particular money\u2019.<\/p>\n

\u201cThere is just a signature, no letterhead, no nothing and we are talking huge amounts of money,\u201d Dintwe said.<\/p>\n

Answering questions regarding the cadet programme at the SSA, Dintwe said nepotism was rife in the programme.<\/p>\n

He told Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo that children, family members and girlfriends of political leaders and senior managers were recruited and given bursaries without any regard to following proper criteria.<\/p>\n

He said this flouting of procedures also resulted in former state security minister Ronnie Kasrils disowning some 40 of the cadets after he went through a list and recognised the nepotism.<\/p>\n

\u201cI am informed reliably that the then minister of state security minister (Ronnie) Kasrils, actually disowned those students because he said that when he was going through the list he could identify that minister that, other minister that, other deputy minister that, other deputy director-general \u2026 so he disowned about 40 graduates,\u201d Dintwe said.<\/p>\n

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