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Africa-Press<\/a> – South-Africa<\/a>. <\/strong><\/span>Cape Town – AFRIFORUM head of policy and action Ernst Roets caused a stir when he engaged in a verbal sparring match with MPs.<\/p>\n

He told them his organisation did not have confidence in Parliament and its public representatives.<\/p>\n

Roets made the statement while making an oral presentation to the ad hoc committee on Section 25.<\/p>\n

The drama started when committee co-chairperson Mathole Motsheka asked, after his presentation, if he believed in the capacity of South Africans to find solutions to their problems.<\/p>\n

Motshekga also asked him to explain why AfriForum rushed to the UN to raise issues about the process of amending the Constitution, to allow for the expropriation of land without compensation.<\/p>\n

In his response before referring to a study, Roets said: \u201cWe don\u2019t have confidence in the people representing the people in South Africa. We don\u2019t have confidence in Parliament to resolve the issues. People are not properly represented.\u201d<\/p>\n

This prompted ANC MP Kathleen Dibolelo Mahlatsi to ask why AfriForum was taking part in a process it did not believe in.<\/p>\n

EFF MP Floyd Shivambu said the process was transparent and democratic to allow racist people to speak in Parliament and say the parliamentary process was not legitimate.<\/p>\n

Freedom Front Plus MP Corn\u00e9 Mulder described Shivambu\u2019s calling Roets a racist as insulting and asked that he withdraw his unparliamentary statement.<\/p>\n

But, Shivambu stood his ground, saying they allowed all sorts of characters who came to Parliament.<\/p>\n

He questioned why Roets said a democratically elected national legislature was not legitimate.<\/p>\n

\u201cWhat other mechanism does he want to be represented in? Is it legitimate when it is only whites,\u201d Shivambu said, adding that they were being deliberately provoked.<\/p>\n

Motshekga defended Shivambu, saying he had made an inference to conduct and that he did not say Roets was racist.<\/p>\n

EFF MP Mbuyiseni Ndlozi said Parliament should invoke its authority<\/p>\n

\u201cWhoever does not believe in us, don\u2019t talk to us. Whoever thinks we are illegitimate, don\u2019t talk to us because we are not scared of you. We are not scared of anything you can do,\u201d Ndlozi said.<\/p>\n

He said Roets\u2019s conduct was motivated by racial patronisation.<\/p>\n

Motshekga urged MPs not to waste their time on unfounded statements or opinions.<\/p>\n

\u201cMPs were elected by the majority of South African, both black and white. It can\u2019t have more substance than that. That must be dismissed with contempt it deserves,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n

Roest did not take the MPs\u2019 responses lying down. He took on Ndlozi and Shivambu, saying they were in disagreement whether he and AfriForum were racists.<\/p>\n

Shivambu retorted: \u201cYou are racist.\u201d<\/p>\n

Motshekga pleaded with Roets to not interpret opinions and to rather respond to the questions put to him.<\/p>\n

Roets denied that he said AfriForum did not recognise Parliament, but stated that politicians were out of touch with realities on the ground.<\/p>\n

\u201cThey do not properly represent people\u2026 I did not say Parliament is illegitimate and that is a storm, with due respect.\u201d<\/p>\n

He, however, said the process of amending the Constitution did not take cognisance of realities on the ground.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe can pretend that we are important, that the people in South Africa have great respect and love their politicians and people who work in Parliament, but that does not distract us from humour, irony and the fact that the corruption connoisseur like Floyd Shivambu is trying to lecture us on how people run the country,\u201d Roets said, laughing.<\/p>\n

Ndlozi responded: No, no, no, no, chairperson. We are not to be abused by this racist boy here.\u201d<\/p>\n

Roets continued laughing, and Motshekga asked him to respond to the questions.<\/p>\n

\u201cPlease take the meeting seriously,\u201d he said before asking to withdraw his statement.<\/p>\n

Roets felt he had been unfairly treated.<\/p>\n

\u201cDon\u2019t you think, members, it is unfair that Members of Parliament made atrocious accusations toward me, AfriForum and our members and if I am responding, you say I must withdraw?\u201d he said.<\/p>\n

In what could be interpreted that Motshekga having had enough of the verbal sparring, Motshekga said they were at the virtual hearing to engage in oral presentations and ask questions.<\/p>\n

\u201cFocus on answering questions and not comment(ing) on other things,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n

Roets said that as far as he was concerned, he had answered questions, unless someone pointed out otherwise.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe are finished. Can we go to the next presentation,\u201d Ndlozi said.<\/p>\n

Political Bureau<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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